Not long after announcing that he and his wife Crystal Smith planned to divorce, stepped back into the music scene with a brand new single “Pinky Ring” featuring . The superproducer-singer-songwriter and his ex have been cordial in the media and during his visit to Pull Up with , Ne-Yo expounded on his personal life.

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“‘Pinky Ring’ is a song about,” the singer said. “It is about a situation that anybody can use as an excuse to be down and feel a way, but instead, taking it and letting it be a positive thing. Not allowing it to bring you down.” Joe didn’t seem too satisfied with the answer and wanted to know what Ne-Yo did that led to the breakup with his wife.

“Without incriminating myself, without incriminating her and without putting any negative connotation on this… I will say that neither one us was exactly who we needed to be in order for this to last, and that’s why it didn’t. Bottom line,” Ne-Yo said. “That’s what it was. I own mine, she owns hers, and the craziest thing is there’s no beef, ”

Budden wasn’t convinced that there’s no beef between Ne-Yo and Crystal and called the singer “oblivious to what’s going on.” Ney-Yo disagreed. Budden later talked about his struggle with getting his engagement ring back from his ex-fiancé Cyn Santana and was surprised to hear that Crystal gave her wedding ring to Ne-Yo without a problem. Budden revealed he had to legally wait for the courts to rule on the matter.

According to Ne-Yo, Crystal isn’t the type person who would hold onto something in order to get back at him or make things difficult. “She’s never been petty like that,” Ne-Yo added. . That’s not her.” Watch Ne-Yo and Joe Budden chop it up on Pull Up below.